Background: I interviewed Bill Salter in 1989 before the YCAC rugby tour that year to South America. The interview was the culmination of my search for the oldest surviving YC&AC rugby player in order to write a story for the YCAC tour program. I had never heard of Bill Salter before I set out on my quest but I was familiar with the name Cecil Arab because of fame as a lawn bowler. The first two paragraphs of the story are over 25 years out of date but I’d like to leave the story I wrote in 1989 as it was originally written.
There are several foreign rugby players and ex-rugby players in Tokyo who would say they played for the YCAC in the âËold daysâ (and the good old days at that) when the YCAC had regular fixtures with some of the top teams in Japan. There were games against Meiji and Doshisha which the YCAC used to win more often than not, a fixture against the âshakaijinâ (company) champions and even the occasional match against the All-Japan squad. The seven-a-side team could do what seems impossible these days ââ get to the final (albeit the plate final) in the national sevens. There are (or were until very recently) five people (who can name them?) still living in Tokyo who played in the 1974 game against an All Japan team which the YCAC was winning until 10 minutes (or was it five minutes or even two minutes?) from the âËno sideâ call.
However, those who think that Brian Pinder (played 1968-1974) is YCACâs oldest surviving rugby player in Japan maybe surprised to hear that there are a couple of fellows still around who were playing rugby for the YCAC quite a few years before Brian was born. These two even played together in one of the Japan Exiles games against the All-Japan OBâs in the early thirties.

Yes, incredible as it may seem, the rather sprightly-looking William Salter who showed up the other day to watch the All Japan Seven-a-Side tournament first played on the YCAC field in 1927. (For those ruggers who canât count, that is 62 years ago). The other was Cecil Arab who is still one of the leading lawn green bowlers at the club.
Getting to meet Bill was no easy task because he still puts in a 50 hour week at the accountantâs office where he works. The other basic problem was that Bill is rather modest of his achievements in those days and doesnât believe the little he claims to be able to remember is of interest to anyone these days.
After I managed to pull him away from some old girlfriend and sit him down in a secluded room, I worked hard to dust off some of his old memories of rugby and the YCAC. As Bill is a delightfully articulate old chap, Iâll try to let him speak for himself: The words in italics are my asides.
âAs a club, the YCAC was getting along rather nicely (in 1927) âÂŚ They ran two teams, the first XV and the second XV, âÂŚ and hockey and soccer etcâÂŚ sometimes I used to play for both (rugby) teams, especially if it was on a Sunday. Iâd play in the morning and play in the afternoonâÂŚ I used to walk up the hill (Bill lived in Yokohama)âÂŚ there wasnât a Yamate station in those days ââ there were tram lines. The tram stop was at a placed called YamotochoâÂŚ down the bottom there, and I used to walk up.â Bill recalled that there were âQuite a fewâ rugby players in those days ââ mainly British and not many Australians. âI used to arrange the fixtures. I was the only one who spoke Japanese. We played the universities and the âËold boysâ teamsâÂŚ Acorn wasnât in existence then (!). âËThere were a fair few spectators. Many would come up in rickshaws. We had no grandstand so theyâd sit in the blinkinâ rickshaws and look at the matchesâÂŚ it was really good! âËThere were âËquite a fewâ Japanese spectators too. âËTheyâd always like the beer at the end of the game not the spectators so much as the players of course. (Same today, isnât it!)âÂŚ They all wanted to come down hereâÂŚ they enjoyed it very muchâÂŚ especially the get together and the couple of noggins of beer and a few sing songs.â (sounds very familiar).
One day Bill and the boys drank the bar completely dry. âIt was a gameâÂŚ I think against Keio. I got up here early in the morning about 8 or 9â˛ÂŚ it looked alright then but then it started to snow a bit. I thought a little bit of snow ââ it doesnât really matterâÂŚ I was just waiting for the Keio team to come up but they wouldnât’ÂŚ the snow got thickerâÂŚ and I thought letâs go to the bar and have a quick one (Some things change over the years and some donât) and in the end we drank the place dryâÂŚ the whole of our fifteen were up hereâÂŚ drunk as lords!
Here is Bill on various topics:
On the level of play in those days: âAs far as we were concerned, we werenât too bad. Not quite as fit as we should have been (Fancy that!) but in those days things were much easier than they are today. There were no airlinesâÂŚ we waited for the ships to come in and worked like mad for a week or so and then waited for the next ship to come in.
âThe Japanese were very, very fit but the only trouble with them was they couldnât dribble the ball. The forwards were no good except Meiji. Meiji were always very good. âÂŚthe Japanese were good at tacklingâÂŚ they were short so the lower they get, the easier it is to tackle. They were similar to today except that they werenât quite as aggressive as they are todayâÂ
We were on a fairly even par (with the Japanese teams) and then later (in the late thirties) on they beat us hollow and the first fifteens wouldnât come down anymore (I do believe history has been repeating itself recently!)
âWe practiced any night we could get togetherâÂŚ the spirit was very good.âÂ
On the YCAC pitch: âWhen I was walking out there this morning, it was a bit damp with yesterdayâs rain and I remembered there was a terrific dip on the right hand corner up top (near the swimming pool) and when we got a bit of rain, sometimes to score a try you had to dive under the bloody water!âÂ
On Interports: âThe first, one of the first anyway, in the late twenties down in KobeâÂŚ the KRAC grounds were not fit for use at that time (have they ever been?) so we had to go to a ground called the Konnan School Ground and it was rocky! Rocky is not the word for it. Honestly, if you got tackled, you were out of the game almost. But anyway we had lots of fun and I remember I scored the winning try. I shouldnât have but I did. As a result, I got very nice and high that night and the next day an insurance bloke came and said youâve got to take your insurance outâÂŚ I couldnât put him off so I did go down and get inspected by the doctor and he said âcor blimmey! youâve got a terrifically enlarged heart and youâll probably die in three years!âÂâÂŚ I went back three weeks later and he said âyou must have had a noggin or two before you came the last time!âÂ. Unfortunately, it was too late to reverse the doctorâs report and so the insurance company put a twelve year lien on our noble young playerâs policy. âËThat was a bad thingâÂŚ and all because of the Interport. After the Interport there was a big âËblack tieâ reception at the KRAC clubhouse attended by âËhundredsâ. (No doubt, while resting from dancing The Charleston, the boys were also bar-diving and throwing bread at the speakers.)
Cecil Arab was playing for the KRAC against Bill in many of those Interports. He confided to me that Bill was not a star but was âpretty useful playerâÂ.
Bill worked in Kobe too and played hockey for the KRAC. âThey made me a life member here (YCAC) but they didnât down thereâ (Typical of Kobe!)
On the difficulties of getting the team out: âIt wasnât really difficult getting the team out but âthere would be quite a few who would be âËnon compusâ on a Sunday morning (Gerry OâHegarty ââ you werenât the first!). We used to have to take it in turnsâÂŚ I donât know if you do it now but one week weâd take the Saturday and the next week weâd take Sunday morning and if we had time weâd have a second game.âÂ
On playing All Japan: â11th February is a national holiday and we used to have a thing called the All Japan Foreigners against All Japan (The Japanese called the team the All Japan OBâs). The team was a mixture of YCAC and Kobe and any other visiting ruggerites. The games went very well (for us) for the first few years that I can remember. I can remember one thing (against All-Japan)âÂŚ it was a snowy, wet, damp dayâÂŚ it was muddyâÂŚ I played all over the fieldâÂŚ at the time I was playing fullback of all places and I scored a try! The only reason a fullback scored a try in those days was that the ball was so slimy that nobody could handle the damn thing and I dribbled the thing all the way until I touched it downâÂŚâÂ
âOne year Prince Chichibu decided to attend the All Japan against the All Japan Foreigners side and I happened to be playingâÂŚ we were told by the president of the Kanto Rugby Football Union that we had to be dressed properly because the price was comingâÂŚ and that meant we all had to wear jockstrapsâÂŚ and I had terrific knock knees and if I wear anything thereâÂŚ cor blimeyâÂŚ I suffer agonyâÂŚ and so I said âËSorry sir!â âÂŚ and he said âËWell! you have toâ. I had toâÂŚ the first half was agonyâÂŚ it was terribleâÂŚ so I went up to the ref and said âËI have to quite because IâÂŚ âand he took me down to his dressing room and he says âËtake that thing off! Wear this!â and he gave me a Japanese Fundoshi (Japanese style jock)âÂŚ Well, you know! It was very comfortable! I wear them to this day! I can show youâÂŚ Iâm wearing one nowâ (records show there were 12 such games played between 1930 and 1941. All Japan won 6, the foreigners won 5 and the first one was a 9-9 draw).
On the outstanding players of those days: âFlemingâÂŚ he was a ScotsmanâÂŚ he used to work with Hellâs Bells (nickname of one of two British accounting firms operating in Japan then)âÂŚ he always considered himself to be the fittest forward on the field but by golly! When he got drunk, he got drunk and he shouldnât have driven a car but he nearly fell into Motomachi creek thereâÂŚ the only thing that saved him was the cable from one of these telephone polesâÂŚ there he was danglingâÂŚ the âËfittest forward on the fieldâÂŚ Oh my God!âÂŚ we had some charactersâÂŚ Archie ScherrerâÂŚ he used to be with Babcock and WilcoxâÂŚ we had another fellow who was very, very short but very nimbleâÂŚ chap called DevisonâÂŚ and we had one chapâÂŚ a very young fellowâÂŚ a chap called EdwardsâÂŚ who was rather goodâÂŚ but if he played too well, his right shoulder would come out (Mr. Edwards latest reincarnation is Alan Lamin!)âÂŚ my God!!! âÂŚ and we had another chap whoâÂŚ he always had a little pocketâÂŚ the watch pocket and two lumps of sugar in thereâÂŚ and every now and again if he played too hard or something he would go into fits and so we had to grab him, take the sugar out and stuff it in his mouthâÂŚ even during the game.âÂ
Cecil told me that he thought that perhaps âËLampyâ Lamport, who was an Oxford Blue, was the outstanding foreigner of those days.
Those of you who have seen the rugby boys totally out of control may be interested to know that back in the twenties and thirties Bill Salter and his team mates used to egg each other on to do outrageous things by promising a nightâs free drink for outstanding performances. Here are a couple which both involve Yamate police. I hope the statute of limitations applies to these offences. Anyway, if they read this, the unfortunate police in Yamate may be able to close the file on a couple of mysterious unsolved cases. Ironically, as Bill was describing the adventures below, the Yamate police were busy giving me a parking ticket!
1) âMcIntyre and Butcher (both worked for the Hong Kong Bank and both could speak German) went down to the koban (police box) in Honmoku (the gay quarters in those days). Butcher got them into chatting away in GermanâÂŚ they couldnât understand half what he was sayingâÂŚ McIntyre crept round the back there and pinched the blinkinâ saber that was hanging upâÂŚ the saber is the thing that you know a policeman by. It wouldnât cut a piece of cheese but it was there! They thought âËby God! This is the most terrific thing. Weâve got a whole nightâs free drink on this one!âÂ
2) âWe were having dinner at the house (of Serge Bielous who still comes down to the club) and we went for a little walkâÂŚ we were passing the Yamate police station and there was a kamban (wooden sign)âÂŚ and we swiped itâÂŚ God! In those days the police stationâÂŚ you didnât even sort of look at the place withoutâÂŚ anyway we go it back to Sergeâs house. We didnât know what to do with it. We stuck it under the bed and had a few more drinks and that was that. I woke up very early in the morning and suddenly realized. Gosh thereâs a rugger game on. Iâd better go up there quickly. And the others got upâÂŚ it was very earlyâÂŚ under the bed was this damn kamban thingâÂŚ we didnât know what to do with itâÂŚ Serge got a hold of a saw and we sawed the thing into sort of manageable bits and wrapped it in paper and carried it up all the way to the YCAC. We didnât know what to do with it hereâÂŚ we were stuffing this thing into the boiler (next to the menâs bath) and the guardman who was looking after the whole place was living way over near the war memorialâÂŚhe got up early and saw smoke coming out of the blinkinâ chimney stackâÂŚ he came charging round and he finds us trying to stuff this police station thing (in the boiler)âÂŚ it was a terrible thingâÂŚ so I had to give him 5 yenâÂŚ in those days 5 yen was worth quite a bitâÂŚ to keep his mouth shutâÂŚ (Unfortunately) we had no proof to prove that we did the most outrageous thing so I didnât get a free drink in the end anywayâÂ.
Bill told me the latter story had an interesting sequelâÂŚ
âÂŚ During the war I served some time in the Indian Ocean in a submarine of all blinkinâ things. We hitâÂŚ a transport I think it wasâÂŚ we picked two or three ratingsâÂŚ I think they wereâÂŚ I happened to be the officer on the deck at the time and I was the only fellow who knew even a smelling of JapaneseâÂŚ so I said âËWell! Bring the fellows in after they clean up a little bitâÂŚ and the third one that came inâÂŚ he says âËHah! Mr. Salter!!âÂŚ and I said âËWhat?âÂŚ in the middle of the Indian bloody Ocean, mind youâÂŚ and I said âËGodammit! Where did I see you before?âÂŚ and he says âËYCAC! YCAC! Donât you remember?âÂŚ I thought âËMy God! There it is! There is that fellow who saw us stuffing this Yamate police station whatknot into theâÂŚâÂ
Iâd like to raise my glass to Bill and Cecil and those âËruggeritesâ in the twenties and thirties. While Japan has gone through the most tremendous changes since Bill first set foot in YCAC, it is fascinating to see that regarding rugby on and off the field at the YCAC, in many respects things havenât changed much.
(William Salter was born August 15th 1904 and educated at Queens College, Taunton and at Bristol University where he read Economics).